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 on: February 15, 2008, 04:11:51 pm 
Started by Zephyrtron - Last post by Zephyrtron
What time (EST, PST, GMT) do most people go on Urban Dead? I've been playing on and off for ages but never seem to be on when other people are doing anything! I want to love this game, but right now it feels like an exercise in futility.

 42 
 on: February 10, 2008, 05:14:50 pm 
Started by Koukol - Last post by Koukol
Given the ambiguous role of syringes, and how people react to their uses, I imagine a lot of suggestions have been made about them, about brain rots, about revives, etc. I'm not too good at wiki navigation, though, so I'm not sure whether my suggestion is as new as it seems, or if there are 107654 versions of it on archive pages I didn't find.

So let's ask here.

It seems that combat revive is BAD. It is frowned upon. It is considered either irresponsible (bringing PKers back to life is dangerous), annoying (and bringing back to life an unwilling zombie player is dangerous), and unfair (if we define a kill as "turning a survivor into a zombie or a zombie as a survivor", it's a 10ap instant kill weapon thing (+10 search), as opposed to the 40ap or so bite kill). Yet, it's a fundamental tool, the only one that allows zombie-to-human migrations.

So far, the only way to reduce the "weapon" usage of syringes, is to offer the brain rot protection to the zombies who want to stay zombies. It had the drawback to force these zombies to stay zombies forever and ever, and this drawback has been corrected a bit with the necrotech-network-revive thingy (zombies who really don't want to be revived but who really really want to be revived must deliberately seek and enter a lit NT building and wait). Ok. This is the situation.

I'd suggest something additional (that would either slightly negate the point of brain rot or the point of NT-network-revives, but work as a better revive system) : the ability to accept revives or not. That is : "The syringe yadda molecular work yadda veins, struggling with urgh yadda zombie thing. Does it succeed? [Yes.] [Unfortunately not.]", click.

Its advantages would be :

1) To not make of the syringe an über-weapon. If you click "no", it acts as a headshot at worst. It doesn't kill you instantly (in the turn-zombie-into-human sense), like a 100-hp zombie superbite would kill a survivor.

2) To ensure the revived human is willing and happy, preventing absurd "waah i wanna be a zombie" PK and suicide reactions.

3) To relieve the survivor from the combat-revive responsability (no more "uh, sorry, i thought reviving you would have been a good thing, like, hm, as if you were a human killed by a zombie and revived, i didn't intend to grief, my bad"). No more need to check profiles for out-of-atmosphere "I WANT TO PLAY A WHILE AS A ZOMBIE PLZ DO NOT REVIVE" descriptions.

4) To allow players to willingly play an unwilling zombie, without having to play out of character if revived (suicides) and without having to play out of character if wanting to be revived (lit nt buildings search if brainrot).

Now, people might ask why zombie would be able to choose to be killed (in the change-nature sense) or not, while humans do get killed (in the change-nature sense) each time their HP reaches 0. This question implies that syringes are a valid weapon. And that the vulnerability to nature change should be the same for zombies and humans. I think it shouldn't. Humans should fear of being killed and turned into a zombies. Zombies should fear nothing, except losing some AP by falling down and having to get up. In particular, forced revives shouldn't be a threat. It should be a hope. I have five characters in Malton, all of them play accordingly to their nature (careful survivors or ferocious zombies, depending on their state), but I have an absurd difficulty to keep my zombies zombified. People complain about the lack of zombies. People complain about combat revives. I think neither brain rot nor out of atmosphere behaviours should be a requisite, to be able to play a zombie "for a while". I think the consensus on combat revives tis solid enough to try to neutralize them.

People have probably already suggested it. What were the arguments against it ? Shall I try to get this in the wiki ? Would it be spammed/flamed to death ? Or would anyone of you take this suggestion and wikify it himself (as I don't care who posts it, and and not to eager to get into proper wiki pages edition and stuff) ?

 43 
 on: February 10, 2008, 04:07:39 pm 
Started by admin - Last post by Koukol
I want to see the atrocities.  Sad

Oh well, those smileys will do.  Tongue

 44 
 on: February 08, 2008, 02:35:47 am 
Started by Masshu - Last post by karek
That's probably because Dulston sees almost no zombies for most of the year, although the Second Big Bash just rolled in so there should be zombies a plenty in the area. As for barricade plans, if you stay in the sparsely populated suburbs it's not as much of a problem as it is in places like Dulston, West Grayside, or Darvall Heights. Barricade plans are generally made and enforced only by a very few groups, and usually in suburbs that rarely actually see zombies(which I always found a little funny).

 45 
 on: February 06, 2008, 05:09:29 am 
Started by Masshu - Last post by Redwingvksm
Well.  Myself is a noob (playing for 3 days now) and yet I've managed.

The WIKI is VERY helpful.  Found the information I wanted (Dulton) and found a PD station that was accessable.  Just read the wiki.  I know what everyone doesn't want to read the wiki - but honestly - to make sure you're gonna last awhile, you have to grab information.  The first day I was out there I wondered all 50 of my AP, so I read the wiki.  Understood what should/shouldn't be done.  You COULD find your own way around stuff - but that'd be a waste of resources for AKF's n' crap.

I like the way Dulton was set up.  Now other cities I can't speak for -but no problems starting out there.  Just slow as hell gaining XP Sad

 46 
 on: February 02, 2008, 08:27:24 pm 
Started by aranna - Last post by bullgod
i don't go for the XP any more, since im maxed out any ways, but i will give them a love bite every now an again. if their zombies then chances are they wont care, and if their humans, well at least their infected now. Grin

 47 
 on: February 01, 2008, 10:36:38 am 
Started by Marcus Bell - Last post by Marcus Bell
It fucking hurts. Every single time. You have to actually die again, maybe, and that's why every single nerve - even the ones under your fingernails, if you still have them - screams.

*

"Biolife Inc, Marcus speaking, how can I help you?"

"Marcus."

"M-A-R- yes, that's right. How can I help you?"

"I'll transfer you to our Bionet department."

"Our Bionet depar- yes, my name is Marcus."

"Bionet. B - I- O - excuse me?"

"Marcus. M-A-R-..."

*

The thing is, the pain isn't enough. It's excruciating, it fills everything. All of those holes left by death? Filled with pain. But it's not enough. Because right now, there's this fucking light, right in front of me, someone is holding a light in my fucking eyes.

*

"I can't help you if you're screaming, ma'am."

"If I could just interrupt, ma'am."

"Ma'am? I can't help you if you're screaming."

"Thank you. Your concerns are heard, Ma'am, but if you remember the quarterly report...."

"Ma'am?"

"Are you there, ma'am?"

*

Pain. Pain and pain and pain. I read about pain, but this is nothing like it. I remember once, when I would hide in the closet with a flashlight, reading books while my parents thought I was asleep. The flashlight had cheap batteries, its glow was orange and comforting. This light is nothing like that. This light is hard and bright and...and... cruel.

*

"Traffic is at a standstill. For those of you heading downtown through Eastonwood and Shorehills, officials are recommending you take alternate routes..."

"...all downtown schools have closed for the day. This includes all schools in Ridleybank, Stanbury and Roftwood, as well as Deansley Drive public school and Mickleburg Way. Please stay tuned for further updates..."

"...authorities at the Nichols Mall have demanded that all media outlets continue with their honest reporting that everything is alright. That's right, honest listeners, the military insists that-..."

*

"Marcus, what's going on?"

"Marcus, some crazy lady is demanding to speak with a supervisor-"

"What do you mean she's not here?"

"Marcus? Is it okay if I go home early? I'm not feeling well."

"Marcus, I'm worried about my husband. Can I go home?"

*

Human. I am human. I care. I love. I think. I breathe. I breathe. I fucking breathe. Pain. Pain pain pain. I don't want to go toward the light. The light means pain. The light means a hell of a lot of pain.

*

"Oh my God!"

"-ease help me, my husband he's gone craz-"

"-at the fuck is happen-"

"-epent! Repent! God has declared judgem-"

"-aaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh-"

*

Before consciousness comes memory. I read that in a book somewhere. I read it before I really felt pain.

*

The light. The light. The light.

*

"Shhhhh...."

"Daddy just got crazy he ate my mommy he got crazy he-"

"Shh!"

"But he...he....Daddy? Daddy? Is that you?"

"That's not your dad...it's-"

"DADDY! I LOVE YOU DADDY!"

*

Run.

Run.

Run.

Hide. Run some more. Hide some more. The light is there. The light is bright. Crazy bright. Run. The light blinds me. I run. I hide. I run and hide and hope that no one sees me no one sees me I run and hide and run and hide some more.

*

"Eden is Burning" says the graffitti.

"Hawthorne don't matter no more" says the thug tearing up another book for the fire.

"There is a cure," says the Scientist, but we don't see him again. Ever again. Not since half-decomposed arms pulled him through that window.

*

The light is the same as the pain as the light as the pain as the light as the pain on and on and on until infinity and then some more until every fucking nerve screams out for it to stop.

*

"I can kill them. I've learned how. Shoot them in the head."

"Easy as pie, right?"

"Yeah. Easy as pie."

"What'd you do, kid?"

*

Every single fucking nerve screams STOP!

*

"I...I worked in a call centre."

*

STOP! The light the pain the light the pain stop stop stop stop.

*

"A call centre? Are you kidding me?"

"I've learned not to kid. Not here."

"Why not? Lost your sense of humour?"

"Too many people around. Too much risk."

"Kid, look up that hallway. Once, it was filled with shoppers: mall rats, soccer moms, those rich gadget fuckers that society never made up a name for yet."

*

I don't care. I didn't care then I don't care now it's too bright it's too bright it hurts it hurts it hurts....

*

"Kid, those mall rats and soccer moms and lawyers and doctors and who the fuck else knows will eat your throat out if you give 'em half a chance."

"I know, but I can't-

help you how can i help-

"- I won't-"

bright light who bright who is that coming

"-shoot a ...shoot a..."

my mother someones mother coming bright who light is coming a shotgun oh my

"person. A human. I can't shoot a-"

-a gun he is aiming a gun but he's not dead he's not dead he's a-

"-human being. It's against my-"

morals i want to say morals but the trigger is pulled the bullet is moving i feel-

light and pain and light and pain

and the fucking needle is in me and i'm not a monster i'm human i'm human i'm a fucking Human and that's what pain and light and pain means and i sit up i mean I sit up and I look around and I know that some Fucker shot me in the fucking Face and I'm human but that doesn't mean I won't Kill that man who looks like my Mother because I know Pain and I know Light and I know his fucking Face.

My first words, knowing that that crazy human looks like my mother in a bad dress, knowing that he's human and knowing that he shot me, and knowing my shotgun is fully loaded, and knowing my pistol is armed too...Knowing all that, my first words are very familiar:

"How can I help you, you zombie-loving mother fucker?"

 48 
 on: February 01, 2008, 06:41:04 am 
Started by aranna - Last post by karek
Bah, no reason not to do it, it's a good way to get easy experience and unless there's an active siege in the area it's not hurting much.

 49 
 on: January 28, 2008, 05:18:34 pm 
Started by aranna - Last post by Jose Rivera
Hey, yeah I was always curious about this. When I first started, I had no idea what I was doing, so I saw zombies and whacked 'em. Now, if I see a zombie at a revive point, I wound it a little bit for some XP, but try my best never to get it past half. *smiles* I know I don't mind when I'm undead if I get wounded, particularly by another zombie, as I await revival.

 50 
 on: January 27, 2008, 02:36:14 am 
Started by Elusive - Last post by karek
Actually bullgod, I've never told anyone to shut up about anything, I was inactive the last time humans got a new skill so I don't know of any complaints or counter complaints and I'm not *complaining* about the update (I'm actually beginning to like it maybe), and I don't know anything about zombie/human join ratios.   Since people aren't actually reading what I'm saying (Or I just suck at communicating, either way) I'm probably going to remove this post tomorrow-ish . . .  So much for the hope of discussion.

Elu
IC:  Matthew "Red" Patton
I'm not aware of any time zombies complained about a survivor update actually. I know most zombie players weren't too happy about the DNA Extractor's can ignore the stack update, or the Forts Update, but they never bitched to this scale about it. Hell, during the Forts Update most of the bitching was survivors complaining Ruin was over powered, and this was back before Ruin blocked Free Running, I mean it literally did nothing but serve as a Ransack that let everyone know it was Ransacked.

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